Gear Reviews, Snowboard Reviews 68

2018 Yes Optimistic Snowboard Review

Board: Yes Optimistic

Size: 154

Camber Option: Camrock 2-4-2. Camber underfoot with rocker in the tips.

Bindings: K2 Indy

Stance: 21.5 Wide 18 Negative 15 Goofy

Boots: K2 Thraxis Size 10

My Weight: 177lbs

Resort: Arapahoe Basin

Conditions: Puking snow, cold blistery temps, and visibility that had me regulated to the lower mountain.

Flex: This board is on the stiffer side. You notice it the most in the torsional flex. The nose seems to have a bit more play than the tail as well due to the shape and rocker.

Stability: This board is short, wide, and stiff. It has the stability you crave when you’re charging around the mountain in variable conditions. While stable it’s still not one of those dead damp rides though.

Ollies/Pop: Load up the camber zone and be prepared to boost. This board has insane amounts of pop, mostly due to having more surface area to really load up on it.

Butterability: Unless you’re going fast and in deep snow I strongly urge you to reconsider trying to butter it. But if you are going to butter just do high speed skid wheelies, those were actually fun.

Carving: I’m a huge fan of Underbite and it works well with this board. I found myself laying down Euro-carves into the lift line when I wasn’t just ripping turns down an open face or getting from one little powder stash or another on the mountain.

Rider in Mind: Someone that likes to ride a shorter wide board that can charge.

Personal Thoughts: I don’t think there’s enough good things to say about this revamp in the Optimistic. It needed it! I found myself jumping off everything I could as well as just trying to rail slalom turns through side hits and laying trenches all over the mountain.

Check out the past reviews of the 2010 and 2016 Yes Optimistic.

Comparable Boards: K2 Party Platter, Marhar Lumberjack, Ride Warpig

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This board was loaned to us for review from Yes Snowboards marketing department.

*Disclaimer this board did not change for 2018 so we carried the 2017 review over.*

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  • Max says: February 28, 2018 at 10:05 am

    surfy in the pow?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: February 28, 2018 at 10:50 am

      For the most part, you have to muscle it around a little bit.

    • Mark says: November 10, 2019 at 10:37 pm

      Hey man! Thanks for your helpful reviews, huge fan.

      Writing because I could really use your guidance with my 2020 board purchase. Currently have a Bataleon Carver and 157 DWD Brewster. I ski east coast groomers and Carver is my main board, got the Brewster to round out with something more playful, but too stiff/serious for my liking, and don’t see myself really using it over the carver too much (might’ve got too big of a size, I’m 6 feet 165/170).

      Im currently looking at the Optimistic 151, Orca 153, and Superpig/Warpig to be my daily driver (so I can save carver for the days I’m feeling reckless). Want something that’s a fun responsive carve in all conditions, can serve as my powder board, and enough flex to do some butters and ollies. Not a huge park guy and wont be throwing anything demanding, but want something I can have fun with and practice some motions.

      Thanks Max and looking forward to hearing your thoughts. Any board size/binding recs obviously appreciated as well.



      • Angrysnowboarder says: November 11, 2019 at 8:11 am

        Your problem is you ski east coast groomers, when you should shred east coast groomers. Skiing sucks.

        Get the Superpig.

  • Max says: March 1, 2018 at 7:00 am

    I know you mentioned Jpow boards on one of your podcasts, are you going to do a review on your site?

  • alex chase says: March 1, 2018 at 11:33 pm

    Would you recommend this, the lunber jack, or the party platter for a short fatty daily driver?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: March 2, 2018 at 9:18 am

      Depends on what you’re doing daily.

      • alex chase says: March 2, 2018 at 4:10 pm

        Just a little bit of everything

  • P-C says: April 7, 2018 at 4:37 am

    Hi Angry,
    I’m 6’2 (188 cm) and 177 lbs (80 kg). My current board is 164 (traditional camber). I’m thinking 157 for the Optimistic. Agree, or the 154?

  • Andrew says: April 16, 2018 at 3:55 pm

    Love how to the point your reviews are.

    6”3, 90kgs ready to ride. Majority of the time will be ridden in Europe where the powder is rarely as light as Colorado (I have to take my friends word as I haven’t been yet!).

    Invariably there will be some harder snow and often a little ice at some points during the day. This board looks like it ticks all the boxes for me.

    154 or 157? From reading reviews it seems either would be good. I generally ride more open snow than trees if that makes any difference.


  • Dan says: May 21, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    Good for japan backcountry? Was thinking the 57 at 190lbs? Need float for bc but lower angle resort and trees ok also. Liked the warpig but missed camber feel.

    • Angrysnowboarder says: May 22, 2018 at 9:21 am

      Should be, but you don’t want the 57 you want the next size down as it’s designed to be ridden smaller.

  • Matt says: July 27, 2018 at 8:47 am

    Better binding choice for Optimistic……Burton Genesis or Gen X? Any other recommendations?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: July 27, 2018 at 12:42 pm

      Well the Genesis X is going to match better for its torsional flex. But if you’re looking to surf more on it then the regular Genesis.

  • Sly says: August 14, 2018 at 4:13 pm

    Any chance you have an opinion on the 2019 model?
    Currently riding the greats and looking at adding another board… I’m tossing up between the 2019 Pick your line and the optimistic.
    Riding conditions: living in Australia with limited ‘pow’ days. I head overseas each year for 2-3 weeks (Utah and Colorado this year).
    I am looking for a board that I can ride on pow days but also get additional use out of it.
    I am looking at the 151 optimistic or pyl 156.
    Height: 168cm
    Weight: 86kg
    Boot size: 9

    • Angrysnowboarder says: August 14, 2018 at 8:09 pm

      For what you’re describing the PYL would have more versatility. From talking with the rep nothing changed in those two models and the review should carry over.

  • Tim says: September 9, 2018 at 9:49 pm

    Hey angry, 6ft , 78kg, 11 boots, is 154 the right size for me?

    Cheers angry!

    • Angrysnowboarder says: September 9, 2018 at 10:49 pm

      You could do the next size down if you wanted to. You’re kind of on the cusp.

  • Tim says: September 10, 2018 at 9:52 pm

    I bought the 154 19 recently and tested it on sat on groomers, I found it a lot of work haha, crap I knew I should have got the 51 but the ww was a bit narrow I thought to lay carves. I’ll give it a another go this weekend make sure I like it,
    One more question, for my spec should I be getting the Capita Mercury 157 or 59?
    I think I’m sweet with any of them though I thought I’d get a nudge from you oh angry snowboarder
    Many thanks

  • Dan says: September 13, 2018 at 4:54 am

    2010lbs gonna be to heavy for the 157? Just ripping around on east coast groomers . This board sounds so fun. Looking to compliment my umt 164w that I love

    • Angrysnowboarder says: September 13, 2018 at 8:18 am

      Well that’s literally 1 ton so yeah I’d say that might be a bit heavy.

  • Dan says: September 13, 2018 at 9:02 am

    Yeah dude I’m fat as a house! Na 210 .I know I can ride it , but I want it for its carving ability I like to really get into aggressive carving .
    So iyo is it stiff enough to handle my weight ? Evo got it listed at 190lbs top end

    • Angrysnowboarder says: September 13, 2018 at 10:54 am

      Nah dude you’ll be fine on the 57 for sure. That board is beefier than most people think.

  • Ben says: September 18, 2018 at 7:22 pm

    Hi Angry,
    I’m 5’11 and 200 lbs. US9.5-10 boots. Riding groomers in South Korea and pow in Japan. Is 154 the right size?

  • Tim says: September 24, 2018 at 8:41 pm

    Update. Got the now drives on the 154. I absolutely love it. I have more fun in the opt than the greats. Aggressive and very playful. I was buttering, jumping and carving all over the place. I can’t wait to get this on powder. Cheers for reviews and advice angry. Seriously stoked how awesome it is and suits my riding style

  • Matt says: October 3, 2018 at 8:35 pm

    Debating size… 5’9 230lbs 9.5 boot.
    Should I get the 154 based on boot size or 157 based on weight? Gonna be on east coast groomers. Thanks.

    • Angrysnowboarder says: October 3, 2018 at 10:20 pm

      Honestly you can really get away with either size. I say go for the 54 being that it’s east coast groomers and your boot.

  • Tom says: October 9, 2018 at 10:38 am

    5’8 size 9 boot 215lbs. How difficult do you think the 157 with a 266 waist will be to turn?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: October 9, 2018 at 12:30 pm

      Not that difficult. You have the weight to go along with what’s going to be needed to drive it. If you were a 115lbs completely different story.

  • Dan says: October 19, 2018 at 11:10 am

    Yes optimistic or Jones mind expander for Idaho resort riding, trees, and not many huge bowls.

  • Eric says: November 20, 2018 at 7:35 am

    Could this be a good compliment to a Lumberjack in a quiver for when snow is old and crusty and trees are tracked out?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: November 21, 2018 at 10:18 am

      I guess, seems like there would be some overlap.

  • Mike says: December 3, 2018 at 9:51 am

    6’0” 180lbs, 11-11.5 boot
    Currently ride an XV Magtek 167 with no problem running anything.

    Want it for trees, carving, and powder. Don’t want to worry about foot drag and don’t want to lose float.

    154 or 157?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: December 4, 2018 at 11:06 am

      Just be aware that it’s torsionally stiff so you might find some issues in trees. Get the 154.

  • Max Nguyen says: December 28, 2018 at 8:19 am

    Optimistic vs archetype?

  • Max Nguyen says: December 29, 2018 at 3:18 pm

    No? Aren’t they kinda short fat pow boards?

  • Max Nguyen says: December 29, 2018 at 3:20 pm

    Or should I ask if you could only have one for pow days. Which one would you get?

    I have a 2019 archetype. Just recently got a 2019 yes Greats for my daily and love it.

    Thinking about an optomistic. But I also love my archetype.

  • Dan says: December 30, 2018 at 9:44 pm

    Have you ridden the 2019 yet, appears to be their modern camber and was wondering how different it rode?

  • Jim says: January 1, 2019 at 3:03 pm

    Hi Angry,

    I’m 6’3, 210lbs, US12. Currently ride a Slash Brainstorm 163W which is ok and a Rossi XV split 164W which I love but they are both a bit narrow and I boot out a bit. I ride in japan most years, but this spring got a trip to AK. Was thinking about a Yes Optimistic 157 but worried about it in tight trees (in Japan). or the other option was the Archetype 160W but thought it might be a bit soft for my weight. what do you think. I would get the Rossi if they made an actual wide version. anything else you would suggest? Cheers

    • Angrysnowboarder says: January 2, 2019 at 8:49 am

      Optimistic should do the trick for you. At your weight you shouldn’t have an issue in trees with it.

  • Peter says: January 28, 2019 at 11:48 am

    I’m 6’2, 182 lbs, US boot size 11. Ride mostly groomers for speed and carving, occational powder. No trees, no park. Do you recommend the 154 or 157 for me? Thanks!

    • Angrysnowboarder says: January 28, 2019 at 3:18 pm

      57 as you’re not doing trees that way you get more edge hold and surface area to cruise on.

  • Peter says: January 29, 2019 at 1:46 am

    Thanks a lot! One more insight from you before I pull the trigger: The weight range according to Yes’s size chart for the 57 is 180-220+. You don’t think the 157 will be too much of a board for my weight for turning and carving on piste? For the 154 I’m almost in the middle of the reference range weightwise. Thanks again, appreciate your work!

    • Angrysnowboarder says: January 29, 2019 at 8:42 am

      It’s going to be a stiffer board for sure, but you’ll be able to rip carves like no other. It’s all in what you want out of the board, which to me sounds like hard charging and ripping carves. If you’re totally worried drop it down to the 54.

  • Peter says: January 29, 2019 at 9:50 am

    Perfect! Thanks. I’m going for 157.

  • Matt says: June 13, 2019 at 11:16 pm

    Considering picking a 151 of these up in the sale, I’m 5’9″ and 150lbs. Currently ride a 2012 Yes Greats 156, but looking for something that will turn a little quicker and easier in the trees. Normal riding for me is a combination of piste charging and tree runs in Europe, so this seems to tick the boxes. Alternatively, could pick up a 420 purely for the pow days and keep with the Greats for piste days?

    Lastly, what Now bindings would you pair with either of the above; keen to give the skate tech a try.

    • Angrysnowboarder says: June 15, 2019 at 8:12 am

      You need to take into consideration that the Optimistic doesn’t have a lot of torsional flex to it. It’s not going to be super quick and nimble in the trees at your weight even with the downsizing. 420 might be a bit better for what you’re looking for. The safe bet from Now would be the IPO.

  • Matt says: June 15, 2019 at 12:51 pm

    Fair point! Given I’m in between weight for both the 145 and 148 on the 420, but looking at being more nimble in the trees, would you suggest the shorter size, or is that going too short? Ta!

  • Jake says: January 24, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    I’m between an optimistic 157 and a Yes Standard 162. A little worried about the shortened tail of the optimistic not providing that much pop. Is the shortened tail really that noticeable in the optimistic as compared to the standard for jumps? Thanks!

    • Angrysnowboarder says: January 26, 2020 at 12:20 pm

      Yeah you lose that springboard effect because it’s so set back.

  • Kenneth Östman says: May 15, 2020 at 7:06 am

    Hey, angry. Got much advise from your channel. Love the short wide so much i got 3 boards. Got the 144 cool bean, 2020 partyplatter 152 and 2019 yes Optimistic 154. Only tried cool bean in some what real pow but planning some offpist in deep snow, what board should you take of them?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: May 19, 2020 at 9:31 am

      Optimistic will be the most versatile of the three.

  • Jacob says: June 9, 2020 at 6:50 am

    Had the PYL for the last few years and loved it. No tickets but would say experienced and advanced rider that loves to go flat out on steep groomers and steep open bowls n chutes (slower in tight tree stuff) 82kg looking to possibly step up the carve factor from the PYL and also retain the pow capability. What do u reckon? what am I missing? Love the union falcor on the PYL hoping to swap em over?

    • Angrysnowboarder says: June 9, 2020 at 12:28 pm

      I think you’re on the right track if you want to carve more with the Optimistic.

  • Elmz says: June 14, 2021 at 6:44 am

    Which binding for the Optimistic? Falcor or Flux XF? Or any other ??

    • Angrysnowboarder says: June 14, 2021 at 7:53 am

      Either would work but I would also look at the Now Drive or Burton Cartel X.

  • Jesse Sheldon says: July 12, 2021 at 11:04 am

    Hey Angry
    Just grabbed a ’21 opti 157 on sale, what would you recommend for binding pairing? Jones apollo, falcors or Flux XV? 6’5 250 with a 12 boot looking to carve groomers and slash trees


    • Angrysnowboarder says: July 13, 2021 at 6:01 am

      I’d probably go with the XV for all around use then the Falcors, Apollo might be a bit overkill.

      • Jesse Sheldon says: July 13, 2021 at 10:13 am

        Thnx, the XV’s would be a purchase for me (they are on sale), before a pull the trigger would there be another binding you would recommend since I’ll be purchasing?

        • Angrysnowboarder says: July 13, 2021 at 12:52 pm

          I think the Ride A-10’s would be a solid match up.


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