Retail Retribution With David Thorne
Someone once told me that the Internet was truly going to be the great equalizer, separating good shops from bad shops. It’s true everything that the Internet offers has changed the playing field so drastically shops are and have been going out of business. Adapt or die seems to be the motto everyone is pushing forward with these days. OK so you’re saying to yourself this is nothing new, well no shit but it’s always refreshing when someone outside of snowboardings core culture decided to poke fun back at it. Enter David Thorne and his debacle with Function 4 Sport snowboard shop.
Everyone has that one run in with someone who is working in what they believe to be the seventh level of retail hell. These people hate their life so much that the only joy they receive from their appropriate picked profession is to make someone else suffer for their short comings in life. David had a run in with a shop full of these monkeys. It started with the so eloquently dubbed Fatty, Fuzzy, and Tattooey shop monkeys sold him on a pair of gloves that didn’t live up to his expectations (or probably anyone’s judging by the description of gross product failure). Whose fault is it, his for buying what they told him would work or the shop that’s job is to guide customers to a product that fits their needs?
So what did David do in his predicament? Well he did what any normal person would do with a defective product, he took it right back to show them what went wrong and to see how they would rectify the situation. He was greeted with a nice “FUCK OFF, You’ve worn this!” Now is that any way to treat someone who paid for a product that clearly failed to provide what the staff told him it would? Being a bigger man than myself and not punching said shop monkey in the face he used his powers of photoshop to create this little gem.
Well that little diddy of an advertisement sparked an email debate between David and Anton the manager of the store. If you want to read up on that conversation David so kindly posted it on his site here. For more humor check out Function 4 Sports fan page on Facebook as many people have left some great comments. For those that are too lazy to enjoy a good witty and sarcastic read I’ll break it down with the best quote from a store manager I’ve seen in eons,”I hope you break your fucking neck in a fall noob.” That pretty much summarizes the stores end of the emails that David received. So being a fan of all things sarcastic, witty, and picking on the stupidity of people in snowboarding I’ve asked David for a little interview on this topic.
Angry Snowboarder: Firstly do you feel that “NOOBS” are the biggest blight to snowboardings culture and should be implanted with a microchip so that all knowing snowboard shops will know not to bother with them?
David Thorne: As an official noob, with L plates on my new Burton TWC board (I do actually have an L plate on my board as I thought it would be funny), I understand that my questions may be ones that snowboard shop staff have heard eighteen million times before. They are more than welcome to complain or laugh about this fact *after* I have put away my credit card and left the store. With equipment. Good equipment. Based on sound recommendations and experience. As a noob, I did do some online research but much of the information garnered was based on personal preference of the people providing the information. Yahoo Answers is probably not the best place to ask anything even remotely technical and wading through forums will often either give too much information or information I couldn’t care less about; No, I have no idea how to ‘detune’ my board or where to get free stickers to stick on it. I just want good equipment that will enable me to progress in an activity I am new to but enjoy and hope to become better at. “What size board do you recommend?” or “What gloves would you recommend for use in the snow” may be stupid questions but they are stupid questions being asked by someone entering a store promoting itself as an professional snowboarding supplier, expecting professional snowboarding advice.
AS: How long after the initial incident was it before you decided to place that advertisement?
DT: The advert was created the day after the incident happened. While I have heard the term “a dish best served cold”, I tend to write most of my material while heated up. The second advert was created after the final email from the store.
AS: If Anton, Tattooey, Fatty, and Fuzzy offered you an apology now and a refund would you take it or be fearful that it’s just a rouse to attack you in their store if they could actually break the shackles of laziness that bind their asses to their chairs and IPhone?
DT: I honestly couldn’t care less about an apology, a refund or the amount I paid for the gloves ($44), it was the fact that they recommended the gloves and less than an hour later after returning and showing them the result and damage to a $400 G-Star jacket, they denied any responsibility whatsoever. I actually stated to them that I was not seeking compensation for the damage or a refund, or even blaming them, but wished to swap the gloves for a pair that don’t bleed black ink when they touch snow. Having also purchased hundreds of dollars worth of base layers and 686 insulated Smarty cargo’s (I love them and would wear them out shopping if I could get away with it) along with the gloves from them earlier, I was actually very surprised at their response. If they did invite me back to the store in an attempt to ambush me and I was stupid enough to go, I would probably deserve a beating. I am pretty sure I could take on Fatty but I would need some kind of improvised weapon to defend myself against Tattoey and Fuzzy as I am pretty unfit. I did a jumping jack once but that was by accident.
AS: A similar thing happened with myself with Tyrant Snowboards as you mentioned in one of our emails. How dense are we Americans to not realize emails and comment threats can be used against us later on down the road? Any advice you would bestow on a person, shop, or company that feels they are almighty behind their keyboard?
DT: I saw the promotional video by Tyrant’s spokesperson. Even as a noob, I wouldn’t be seen dead on one of those things. I make a bit of spare change from the email exchanges I post on my website and have been lucky enough to have the book picked up by Penguin (thought I would get that plug in there) so personally, I would recommend individuals and companies alike put no forward thought into what they write and simply hit that ‘send’ button as hard as they can.
AS: On a softer note do you feel that dropping the proverbial nuclear bomb with your strategic retribution advertisement was warranted and do you feel any remorse for the shop involved? How about for the consumers that aren’t going to get their free set up?
DT: Every action has either results or repercussions. Those that rang the number asking for a free board are a part of the article and many who now realise it was a joke are happy to have contributed. I haven’t had anybody email me stating that they feel ripped off or resentful for wasting a phone call yet and many have dialled the number only because they realise it is a joke and want to be a part of it. Factions are fun. I will admit though, to putting little thought into the repercussions of what I write, do or post. I should probably grow up and get a real job or volunteer at a hospital or something.
AS: Do you feel that anyone mislead by the advertisement should sue Function 4 Sports for false advertising?
DT: No because it would ultimately probably be me who has to pay for them and I haven’t got any money. The money I do have, I need to buy drugs.
AS: Any thoughts on Antons threat of calling Johnny Law about this? Worried that maybe he could sue you for slander?
DT: It is always a possibility but I usually try to write under the banner of ‘parody’ and with a sense of humour rather than attacking. I have overstepped the mark legally a few times though. When I posted a fake internal memo from McDonald’s, regarding the implementation of short-changing customers as a procedure. A few days later I was actually arrested for fraud and had my computer equipment taken for evidence under e-crime legislation. I was hoping Ronald McDonald would appear personally in court but it was just some old guy in a bad suit.
AS: On a more serious note even after all your trials and tribulations are you going to be sticking with snowboarding and becoming a charter member of our culture?
DT: Although I am admittedly quite hopeless and truly deserve the label noob, I really enjoy it and tend to jump into things I am interested in. As I am rarely interested in things, this leaves a lot of time for the things I have jumped into. So yes. I actually grew up wake-boarding in Australia and assumed I would be a natural at snowboarding but the two activities are nothing alike – I am enjoying being a noob though and the learning curve that comes with such. I am also finding, with the exception of certain snowboard store staff, that people who snowboard are, for the most part, extremely helpful towards us newcomers and passionate about the sport and the culture that comes with it. As I am currently living at Massanutten in Virginia, this gives me the opportunity to practice a lot. Between bruised arms, knees, elbows and tailbones. I actually managed to do a triple flip the other day. It was unintentional and horizontal along ice but it still counts. I am hoping to snowboard somewhere soon that has actual snow.
The moral of the story people or should I say you shop people is don’t be a bunch of lazy fuckwads that hates on the biggest source of revenue for snowboarding. Kudos to David for creating the ad, answering the emails, and above all else being down for a funny little interview. Next up just need to email Anton and have him weigh in on this.
Latest posts by Angrysnowboarder (Posts)
- Strange Days at Boreal Ep. 2 - May 24, 2013
- Love Winter TEASER - May 23, 2013
- Bonfire Ballistic Jacket and Brighton Pant Used and Reviewed - May 23, 2013



[...] I think this should make people laugh The Angry Snowboarder Blog Archive Retail Retribution With David Thorne __________________ Angry Snowboarder Because someone has to call it how they see [...]
That is a huge bowl of awesome right there!
Effin awesome read. David Thorne rocks!
Great write up for sure. This has been a humorous chain of events.
Dear Anton, Please oh please oh please answer the angrysnowboarder interview request!
Full of awesome.
Bwaaaa-haahahaha!
Triple-horizontal flip! Yeah, I’ve done those.
Anton’s reaction is so totally unreasonable for a store that’s still in business, I have to suspect drugs or brain damage.
[...] Posted by BurtonAvenger Well I think this should make people laugh The Angry Snowboarder Blog Archive Retail Retribution With David Thorne Nicely done. Hopefully little anton will respond too. Looks like F4S (Fucktards 4 Sodomy) have [...]
Fucking awesome. I needed a good laugh this weekend and this was perfect.
Can I be as cool as you guys one day? :-p
fingers crossed that Anton responds…
Thank you for this! Haven’t laughed out loud from an online article in a while..
That was hilarious. Both the interview and the original article. 1000 internet points for getting David Thorne to do an interview. I have been a big fan of his for about two years.
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Shred Union, Peak8. Peak8 said: The Angry Snowboarder » Blog Archive » Retail Retribution With … http://bit.ly/hH8RuJ [...]
The email exchange is priceless!
[...] Glow In The Dark After Your Visit Kids! Image by krossbow ATOMIC BAR STOP & SEE SOUVENIRS of the BOMB EXPLOSION A great related post about this: http://www.angrysnowboarder.com/?p=8664 [...]
Nice read Av and thanks David for responding. Massanutten isnt too far away. i would love to catch a chair with that guy.
This was fantastic.
everything in that email thread shows whats wrong with the modern shop and why online sales are doing as well as they are.
its unfortunate that retailers are having such hard times. I hope that maybe the internet will help weed out dickweeds like these guys.
I’ve always been a big fan of going into the local shop and having a personal buying experience. after seeing a instance like this I can understand why some are not as big on the idea.
Love this! That guy’s blog is brilliant…if you haven’t read his exchanges with Blockbuster…or the “missing Missy” posts you really should. That said this shop got off way easier than they deserve. If you treat people right when they are new they will be customers for life. I would still shop at NW Snowboards exclusively if I lived a little closer to them, since they took such great care of me back in my noob days. Luckily both Evo and Snowboard Connection in Seattle are very reliable, honest and pleasent to deal with. A good shop lasts, shops that employ haters and elitists do not… crossing my fingers that this douche bag goes out of business shortly. I wouldn’t shop there that’s for sure.
[...] Spaniards slay stairset. Footyfiend.com releases a good Whistler park edit. The Angry Snowboarder shares a great retail story. And this is a mad mini ramp! Austria: The poor man's [...]
I’m not jumping in the ring for the shitty shop, because there really isn’t any excuse for bad customer service. But I just looked at this dude’s blog, and it seems to me that he just goes out of his way to provoke these exact kinds of situations. I wouldn’t be surprised if he caused the entire thing. I’ve worked in shops for years, and I’ve never come across a pair of gloves that bled color just from contact with snow. This guy sounds like a just as big a dick as the shop dude to me.
@NYPD
Of course you would get that impression from reading his website, he’s not going to blog about all the pleasant exchanges he has with sane people if the main traffic driver to his site is people looking for him messing with dickwads, is he?
You’re all fnuktards. I don’t give a fuck about what any of you stooopid Americans think any way. I can do whatever I like cuz I own the internet. BAHAHAHA®
I can’t put fake names in as well. We all know it’s you Anton.
For anyone that may come across this article, you might want to consider the fact that a majority of the email exchange between Mr Thorne and Function 4 Sports was made up. In short, it was bullshit, and Mr Thorne was damned lucky he did not find himself in court for that stunt.
http://hburgnews.com/2011/03/02/function-4s-brush-with-satirist-david-thorne/
Anyone who thinks that all Mr. Thorne’s material is true and accurate is not paying close enough attention.
David Thorne is a pathological liar. I purchased his book in May/June 2010 and it was never delivered. A refund was offered but never sent. Numerous emails received zero response. He has publicly blamed his publishing company of the time for the errors, but my cash went directly to his personal paypal account. He has also publicly stated that this issue of the David Thorne Scam Book has been sorted out, but he is lying. I have no book, no refund and there must be many more.
It may be a minor thing but he clearly has no integrity and as such is a worthless human being.
Trolling basically equates to: Me say something you hate, you respond in the manner i chose in the first place, i reply with another pathetic/lame/lie that gets another prescribed response. The funniest thing about David Thorne is that people react and respond before thinking about how immature the opening comment was. David Thorne A.K.A David Gould (real name) Born 13 Feb 1968, not 1972 as he claims, Has more to troll about than any one i know. Jailed for various crimes including rape, yes RAPE, with a base ball bat, (not sure if he inserted it or used it to force her) auto theft, shop lifting etc etc. Has 2 sons not 1 as he claims. Has not paid child support to either. Moved to America as his own family will not speak to him. I feel sorry for the people of Harrisonberg that have to deal with him. Please do not send him back to Aus. We are sorry and do not claim him as our own.