Board: Marhar Lumberjack
Size: 152
Camber Option: Zero camber with Sideways rocker. A flat board with a slightly elevated base by the edges to prevent edge catch.
Bindings: K2 Lien AT
Stance: 21.5 Wide 18 Negative 15 Goofy
Boots: K2 Thraxis Size 10
My Weight: 177lbs
Resort: Copper Mountain and Arapahoe Basin
Conditions: Copper was puking snow and just tree hot laps through the foot or more of snow that was falling. Arapahoe Basin was a sunny bluebird powder day after 6 inches of fresh snow with cold temps and zero wind.
Flex: Middle of the road flex from the tip to the tail and torsionally.
Stability: The wider chassis of this deck makes it highly stable in varying snow. On groomers you might feel a little bit of vibration in the tips due to the shape, but that is very minimal. It’s not an overly damp board but it’s very lively.
Ollies/Pop: This board has serious snap and that’s not just off a firm snow. I found myself popping out of deep snow with ease on this deck. It just wants to boost off the tips due to the wider shape.
Butterability: The tip shape and wider platform are designed for doing pow butters. It’s one of the easiest things to initiate on this board and will make you look like a rock star. They come around so effortlessly you won’t even know you’re trying to do one.
Carving: You would think that a board this wide and designed for powder freestyle might suck on a groomer. You would be wrong! This board can rip a carve as well as a quick set up turn with ease. This adds to the benefits of this deck.
Rider in Mind: Someone that’s going to rip a wide open powder bowl, hit a log jib or three, and then jump off a small cliff. The end of the day might come around and they’ll be on a groomer just ripping a carve.
Personal Thoughts: This board is a versatile weapon. The powder hull shape funnels snow and the camber profile makes it a blast in pow. This thing is designed for destroying powder. Whether you’re riding wide open alpine bowls or tight tree runs this board will rip a hard turn with ease in fresh snow or a groomer. If you do have a smaller foot you might encounter some issues with carving though.
Similar Boards: Yes 20/20, Ride Warpig, K2 Party Platter
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This board was given to us for review from the Marhar Snowboards Marketing Department. I helped design this board with Nate Morse of Marhar.
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Pretty awesome you helped with the design!
Just out of curiosity, what was it you wanted most out of the board when you were designing it? What aspect of the board’s design got you to that desired outcome?
Basically this is how it went. I reached out to Nate about doing a wide, short, powder twin board that is designed for jibbing logs. The reason for this is Breckenridge is home to a lot of log jibs and I wanted something that had a slight 3D base to it so not to hang up when I would go sideways on a log as well as be good in the deeper snow that accumulates on Breck in the hidden log jibs. Originally the tip shape was a lot crazier but technological concerns as well as manufacturing came into play, it was supposed to kink up almost to a 90 degree angle and be bowed like a hull of a boat. This was to shovel snow out of the way when charging into something like the Logness Monster or the Kinko Rail. The tip is a bit more mellowed out but it still works the way you want and gives insane pop.
The funny thing is this board is good in deep snow outside of what I wanted it for and really holds its own when charging around. But to answer your last question the shape, camber profile, core profile, sidecut bumps, and sideways rocker are what I knew I wanted. I didn’t realize other people would jump on to what this deck can do and like it so much.
That original tip shape sounds insane. The short, wide powder/do everything twin trend is pretty awesome as I don’t know if any MFG has made one yet that isn’t a blast to ride all over. Sideways rocker seems so alien to me. Prefer it due to Breck conditions/powder or the way it rides in general? Talked to plenty of people that have given Bataleon’s 3BT a shot only to be let down, but Marhar’s sideways rocker seems like a refined version of the similar design tech.
Here’s the thing with Sideways Rocker it’s not as defined as TBT. You’re talking about something that is blind to the naked eye and you can’t feel if you run your hand side to side. It’s there, but it’s minimal, which is what you want so you have edge control and it gives lift in powder so the edges don’t drag. It’s really nice on a log jib as you’re not fearing your edge catching. I’m someone that doesn’t detune, I just ride the board right out of the wrapper sharp as shit.
How’s the speed on this board? Is it quick and fast just bombing a groomer heading back to the lift after leaving the trees?
It’s as fast as you want to go.
Looking for a pow/tree board. I’m up in arms in decision between Marhar lumberjack or Yes optimistic. I’m a 190lb and 6′ tall. Boot size 12. I like both of them. I am currently on a Nitro Pantera 163W. Its super stiff and can fly. It’s just a little long and hard to maneuver in the trees. What do you think is the better choice?
The Optimistic and Lumberjack are both great boards. I tend to favor the Lumberjack more for riding in trees though due to its shape and flex pattern.
would you recommend this bad boy as a one board quiver for a smaller east coast resort (Holiday Valley- which I know youre familiar with)??
at my age and rad dad status- im constantly on the look out for a powder board that I can ride daily. I want it to be ready to slay when the pow hits, but cruise/rip while I wait for the pow to arrive. Cant do the quiver anymore because I gotta make sure junior’s set up is legit. also don’t wanna make him run to the car with me every time i switch decks… also in consideration are the Arbor shreddy, K2 Ultradream, Gnu space out.
Appreciate the help!
I guess after reading your reviews I should be considering the Warpig and the Party Platter too, huh??
Here’s the thing about this board for a place like the Valley, if they get snow it could be great. Getting into the trees off Morningstar, Northwind, Falcon, etc. etc. it will excel. As a daily driver, not so much. When I worked with Marhar on this board I designed it more for riding Breckenridge and hitting log rails. I think you would do way better with a Party Platter or Warpig. They’ll have the sidecut you want to rip a turn on those boiler plate days down Yodeler or Sunrise.
So,… This deck? Not so much for the Midwest, icy groomer crowd? Sounds like a great POW stick to have for those occasional trips to the Promise Land tho!
You would be surprised at how well this thing lays a carve on firm groomers. But it’s full potential is meant for deep days in tight trees with friends.
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Looking for an all mountain board. I was wondering if I should look into the Lumberjack or the never summer proto type 2?
Fuck the Proto Type 2, well fuck Never Summer in general. While the Lumberjack is great, it’s not an all mountain board in the traditional sense and I feel the Marhar Regent is better.
hi! which size lumberjack is right for me ? I’m 178cm 84kg 10us boots. I like 50/50 open faces and trees!
152
Which would you suggest for an intermediate rider that wants versatility for unpredictable PNW conditions from wet snow, carving ice/cat track groomers, and then a powder dump on the blue/black runs and bowls? I currently have a 156 cm Lib Tech Skate Banana. Being 6’0, 170lbs with 9.5 boots, I am considering the 152 cm Marhar Lumberjack or the 148 cm Ride War Pig. Any thoughts on stability, chatter/dampness, and versatility? I do not jib on logs,rails/boxes but occasionally will go for the bowls. Thanks!
Neither if you don’t need a twin.
What size foot would you say is too small for the lumberjacks width? I am size 9 looking for twin powder board for Baker! An6 information is greatly appreciated!
9 is kind of pushing it with it if you’re ever trying to carve, if you’re just looking for float in heavy snow like Baker has you should be OK.
Thanx for your response! Definitely trying to lay down some carves, drop chutes, medium cliffs and jib everything. If the Lumberjack isn’t the ticket with my size 9. What would you recommend? I’m 180lbs 5’9″ and shred Baker. Hike Backcountry and ride 80 plus days. Currently on reg camber Amplid HI-FI 158. Perfer twin over directional. Was just about to pull the trigger on the Lumberjack 155. Your advice is greatly appreciated. Pow days are among us!
I ride a 152 Lumberjack at 210 and 6 foot with a size 10, a 155 would be OVERKILL. I’d say if you’re on the twin or twinish kick I’d look at the Ride Warpig or the K2 87 if you want something you can downsize on.
Ride Warpig in small or large?
Thanx for the info.
Small.
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I ride groomers, packed ice, and slush most the year in SoCal. But i want something for rare pow days, take on trips for better resorts, and can butter and jib with. I’m 41, 5’8, 185lbs, size 9 boot…. lumberjack, Box Knife, or SplitPig?
Lumberjack
I’m loving the reviews and have one on order from Evo. It’s a lot of $$ and I’m looking for a quiver killer so last question and then I’ll stfu: as an intermediate rider, this is still your suggestion for slush and ice groomers as well? I’ve had a skate banana (hated it), 2 Eras, and a Drifter (which rode best on shitsnow). Thanks again
Slush this thing destroys. Ice it’s more about the rider but that Attack Arc sidecut does help.
I’m looking for a 2nd board to go alongside my K2 Broadcast. I’m 140-145 lbs with size 8 shoes, wondering if this or the LumberJill would be a good pairing. Looking for something more playful, and will float well in pow, with a japan trip coming up this winter.
If you did this you’re limited to the 52 which will give you GREAT pow float in Japan but be a bit harder to work on edge on a groomer, where as the smaller sized Lumberjill will fit your foot shape better and be easier to maneuver.